April 10, 2004

Economic Rant (Part 1)

Okay, I have been ranting at a bunch of of my friends lately about economics and tax policy lately, so I figured what the hell, time to subject anyone foolish enough to read my blog. In this post I am going to focus on why cutting Taxes in the context of the current economy does not help people.

DISCLAIMER: I am not an economist. I have never had any formal training in macro or micro economics. The only formal study I have ever had on the subject is some highly theoretical mathematics work on derivatives trading about 7 years ago.

First, lets discuss some basic principles. During the course of normal economic transactions wealth does not disappear. Ii is mostly zero sum transactions (I buy something from you, you give me some money, a bit is taken by the government, and I give you an item which I had a specific value for). The amount of wealth in existence has not changed. You and I may differ in what the intrinsic value of the purchased item is, but from either point of view the amount of money in existence is constant. The second fact worth mentioning is that in an economy whose currency is not directly backed by a fixed commodity printing more currency does not increase the amount of wealth in existence, though it does implicitly devalue the existing stock of currency, and therefore redistributes wealth from everyone to the printer (in my case the United States Government). Wealth is created in very specific ways, either invention of new ideas, the exploitation of natural resources, etc.

Now some history. A lot of things people say are pure conjecture. It is hard to experiment with economic policies. But we can examine what has happened in the past. Given the fact that wealth transactions or generally zero sum, and in the absence of wealth creation or inflation money can be used as a proxy for wealth, we can say that generally when there is a depression the amount of money (and by proxy wealth) does not drop (all you screaming about the stock market and unearned gains quiet down, I will deal with that in a future post). So what happens. In the great depression basically all the wealth stored in the market ended up gathered in a few people's hands. So there were a few very rich people, and the rest of the country suffered massively. Taxes were almost non-existent compared to today.

Now what can we draw from this. First, having the wealth of the nation being highly consolidated seems to be empirically bad. We can probably make the claim that the more times a piece of currency exchanges hands the better it is for the economy as a whole. We can also can also note that the worse economic drops in the history of the country have tended to happen during periods of low taxes. It also means that rich people are bad for the economy. The more money that they someone has the more consolidated they make the economy, and the more money that is not being actively used in standard economic transactions throughout the country. Likewise, people living month to month are great for the economy, since the money the get quickly goes through several economic transactions before getting either recycled into someone else's pay, or unfortunately consolidated into some large pool of wealth

Now, I am not arguing people should live month to month. It may be good for the economy, but it is bad for for personal security. The point is that there should be a happy medium. The other point to take home is that if any tax cuts really do have a relatively short term effect on the economy than it would be tax cuts on people who are immediately turning over the money, people living month to month. As the case is that means payroll taxes in the United States, which is how the majority of Americans pay most of their taxes, and is interestingly the sort of taxes that the current administration has been loathe to cut.

Posted by louis at April 10, 2004 10:32 AM | TrackBack
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The rich pay almost nothing in taxes if they don't want to. Imagine your working rich, which means you most likely own a successful small buisness. You can choose to not pay yourself, and instead issue dividends. They your income tax rate is only around 15%, and you get out of paying social security and all the rest of the payroll taxes.

Most people (poor and middle class) actually have to work for someone else for a living. If you do that its pretty hard to game the system, since most of your taxes are payroll taxes, so they are just taken out of your paycheck immediately. Income is reported to the IRS by your employer. You can't choose to do things like re-characterize income as dividends, are deferred compensation, and all sort of options the rich have to reduce their tax burden.

Social security is a scary example, it takes 7.5% out of your paycheck. But it stops around $87k. So for anyone making less than a $87k its a a 7.5% tax, but for someone making a $500k its 2%, and for someone making multiple millions it is negligible.

Its even worse than that though, since social security is paid both by you and as a match by your employer. Whatever you pay your employer also pays. So That is a 7.5% pay increase that your not getting (its more likely you'd get a 3-4% more and your employer would make some more money, but still).

Don't get me wrong, I think social security is a spectacular program, I just think the way it is paid for is wrong. Imagine they did this instead:

Reduced the taxes by around 2 or 3%. Get rid of the match and raise the minimum wage to force some of that to go back to employees. Eliminate the cap or move it to several million dollars at the minimum. I don't have access to computer models to rebalance it, but it could be done.

Posted by: louis at May 8, 2004 03:34 PM

Sorry, I'm a speak first think later person. Anyways In theory there's a happy medium, but that is assuming everyone pays the same percentage in taxes. The rich pay more and the poor pay less, which isn't that case. A killer example is Louisiana, which has relatively high taxes if you're poor, but low taxes if you're rich. New Orleans in particular has a large population living below poverty level despite having legal jobs. In this situation, tax cuts would help the economy, giving people more spending money. I think perhaps this is why tax cuts seem so appealing to so many people right now. Check out this link for more info www.itepnet.org/wp2000/la%20pr.pdf

Posted by: lauren tanzio at April 22, 2004 12:10 PM

Well, at least there's one up side to being below the poverty level. I won't stop buying Powerball tickets though. I'd rather be rich and own everyone...

Posted by: Lauren Tanzio at April 21, 2004 03:43 PM
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